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06-13-2009, 11:05 PM
This page,
http://dyspraxicfundamentalistbp.blogspot.com/2008/09/watchman-nee-on-new-jerusalem.html
is taken from this page,
http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Revelation_21#newcity
Darrin (http://www.blogger.com/profile/01834271493422358659) said... Hey Matthew-
Great post. Where did you come across this? I like Watchman Nee's stuff, but only have a couple of books by him.
Have fun and stay busy - Luke 19:13
-The Orange Mailman
10:32 AM (http://dyspraxicfundamentalistbp.blogspot.com/2008/09/watchman-nee-on-new-jerusalem.html?showComment=1222363920000#c54878001 20341770591) Celestial Fundie (http://www.blogger.com/profile/02874430461346560520) said... I find it interesting that you like Watchman Nee, given that you are non-dispensational and he was Pre-Trib Partial rapture.
I am glad I am not the only Pre-Wrath Watchman Nee fan.
Watchman Nee's books are easy to come by on Amazon.
I got this off this site:
Watchman Nee: The Spiritual Man (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Watchman_Nee.htm)
It is a rather unbalanced site. The administrator seems to think that Watchman Nee was infallible. He has a bad habit of firecely attacking critics of Watchman Nee and concluding that they are 'unsaved.'
God Bless
Matthew
12:38 PM (http://dyspraxicfundamentalistbp.blogspot.com/2008/09/watchman-nee-on-new-jerusalem.html?showComment=1222371480000#c15323065 981131646) Tammy (http://www.blogger.com/profile/00001669347104384576) said... I disagree and feel your comments are unbalanced for sinning bearing false witness. The owner of that site actually felt Nee was too soft on gibberish babblers, though he did refer to them as baby talk or kindergarteners, and did refer to the dangers of such things. But he never directly came out and said gibberish babble is altering God's Word. The owner, Troy Brooks, other than that found everything Nee wrote to be correct and fully proven in God's Word. Why does that offend you? Is there something Nee taught that you disagree with? I think you are bearing false witness, because the owner of that site doesn't accuse someone of being unsaved because they disagree with the person Watchman Nee. You know it is a sin to bear false witness so you know you get judged for this sin. When someone is abused and mistreated, it is incumbant upon you to defend the truth and not accuse those who are doing God's will. May God forgive you Matthew. I know Troy and Nee would forgive you.
9:45 PM (http://dyspraxicfundamentalistbp.blogspot.com/2008/09/watchman-nee-on-new-jerusalem.html?showComment=1225863900000#c18986976 24957317704) Celestial Fundie (http://www.blogger.com/profile/02874430461346560520) said... Tammy, thanks for visiting and leaving your comment.
Troy Brooks accuses a number of individuals on his website of being 'unsaved' without giving any good reason.
12:42 AM (http://dyspraxicfundamentalistbp.blogspot.com/2008/09/watchman-nee-on-new-jerusalem.html?showComment=1225874520000#c15101065 13902518358) Troy (http://www.blogger.com/profile/11405896181060921408) said... Where? I think you have to prove your case, otherwise you are bearin false witness. God hates that sin.
9:59 PM (http://dyspraxicfundamentalistbp.blogspot.com/2008/09/watchman-nee-on-new-jerusalem.html?showComment=1244955574579#c33833196 7187769722) Troy (http://www.blogger.com/profile/11405896181060921408) said... I think several sins can be identified here bearing false witness, so here is the truth of those mistaken assumptions:
1) Watchman Nee was also pre-wrath for the general resurrection;
2) On Amazon, make sure you only get the books from CFP and CLC because LSM have strange alterations (LSM is a cult);
3) that Watchman Nee site and link to the TSM is not professing Watchman Nee is infallible-who knows where Matthew makes that assumption, but that's his own problem;
4) a person is not saved because they may disagree with Watchman Nee, so again, that is bearing false witness (any claim of unsalvation in another individual is strictly according to Scripture and testified by the Spirit);
5) Yes, Nee is a spiritual Christian so many will not be at his level (but that is still not excuse for someone to teach false teachings), so by disagreeing it could indicate fleshly Christian, but since Nee is in agreement with Scripture, disagreeing with Nee could, in fact, be a sign of unsalvation, because the person is, ultimately, rejecting Scripture perhaps by teaching Calvinism, since God does not save that way. Go does not regenerate a person causing them to repent and believe in Christ. First you need to repent and believe then God regenerates (saves). Watchman Nee was OSAS Arminian, whereas that cult mentioned above was run by a Calvinist. As Dave Hunt says, What Love is This?
I hope this gives you some idea what Christians go up against. The unsaved tares, e.g. Calvinists, trying to look like saved wheat.
God offer us salvation when He says "come unto me" (Matt. 11.28) because we have free-will: "whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely" (Rev. 22.17)?
http://dyspraxicfundamentalistbp.blogspot.com/2008/09/watchman-nee-on-new-jerusalem.html
is taken from this page,
http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Revelation_21#newcity
Darrin (http://www.blogger.com/profile/01834271493422358659) said... Hey Matthew-
Great post. Where did you come across this? I like Watchman Nee's stuff, but only have a couple of books by him.
Have fun and stay busy - Luke 19:13
-The Orange Mailman
10:32 AM (http://dyspraxicfundamentalistbp.blogspot.com/2008/09/watchman-nee-on-new-jerusalem.html?showComment=1222363920000#c54878001 20341770591) Celestial Fundie (http://www.blogger.com/profile/02874430461346560520) said... I find it interesting that you like Watchman Nee, given that you are non-dispensational and he was Pre-Trib Partial rapture.
I am glad I am not the only Pre-Wrath Watchman Nee fan.
Watchman Nee's books are easy to come by on Amazon.
I got this off this site:
Watchman Nee: The Spiritual Man (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Watchman_Nee.htm)
It is a rather unbalanced site. The administrator seems to think that Watchman Nee was infallible. He has a bad habit of firecely attacking critics of Watchman Nee and concluding that they are 'unsaved.'
God Bless
Matthew
12:38 PM (http://dyspraxicfundamentalistbp.blogspot.com/2008/09/watchman-nee-on-new-jerusalem.html?showComment=1222371480000#c15323065 981131646) Tammy (http://www.blogger.com/profile/00001669347104384576) said... I disagree and feel your comments are unbalanced for sinning bearing false witness. The owner of that site actually felt Nee was too soft on gibberish babblers, though he did refer to them as baby talk or kindergarteners, and did refer to the dangers of such things. But he never directly came out and said gibberish babble is altering God's Word. The owner, Troy Brooks, other than that found everything Nee wrote to be correct and fully proven in God's Word. Why does that offend you? Is there something Nee taught that you disagree with? I think you are bearing false witness, because the owner of that site doesn't accuse someone of being unsaved because they disagree with the person Watchman Nee. You know it is a sin to bear false witness so you know you get judged for this sin. When someone is abused and mistreated, it is incumbant upon you to defend the truth and not accuse those who are doing God's will. May God forgive you Matthew. I know Troy and Nee would forgive you.
9:45 PM (http://dyspraxicfundamentalistbp.blogspot.com/2008/09/watchman-nee-on-new-jerusalem.html?showComment=1225863900000#c18986976 24957317704) Celestial Fundie (http://www.blogger.com/profile/02874430461346560520) said... Tammy, thanks for visiting and leaving your comment.
Troy Brooks accuses a number of individuals on his website of being 'unsaved' without giving any good reason.
12:42 AM (http://dyspraxicfundamentalistbp.blogspot.com/2008/09/watchman-nee-on-new-jerusalem.html?showComment=1225874520000#c15101065 13902518358) Troy (http://www.blogger.com/profile/11405896181060921408) said... Where? I think you have to prove your case, otherwise you are bearin false witness. God hates that sin.
9:59 PM (http://dyspraxicfundamentalistbp.blogspot.com/2008/09/watchman-nee-on-new-jerusalem.html?showComment=1244955574579#c33833196 7187769722) Troy (http://www.blogger.com/profile/11405896181060921408) said... I think several sins can be identified here bearing false witness, so here is the truth of those mistaken assumptions:
1) Watchman Nee was also pre-wrath for the general resurrection;
2) On Amazon, make sure you only get the books from CFP and CLC because LSM have strange alterations (LSM is a cult);
3) that Watchman Nee site and link to the TSM is not professing Watchman Nee is infallible-who knows where Matthew makes that assumption, but that's his own problem;
4) a person is not saved because they may disagree with Watchman Nee, so again, that is bearing false witness (any claim of unsalvation in another individual is strictly according to Scripture and testified by the Spirit);
5) Yes, Nee is a spiritual Christian so many will not be at his level (but that is still not excuse for someone to teach false teachings), so by disagreeing it could indicate fleshly Christian, but since Nee is in agreement with Scripture, disagreeing with Nee could, in fact, be a sign of unsalvation, because the person is, ultimately, rejecting Scripture perhaps by teaching Calvinism, since God does not save that way. Go does not regenerate a person causing them to repent and believe in Christ. First you need to repent and believe then God regenerates (saves). Watchman Nee was OSAS Arminian, whereas that cult mentioned above was run by a Calvinist. As Dave Hunt says, What Love is This?
I hope this gives you some idea what Christians go up against. The unsaved tares, e.g. Calvinists, trying to look like saved wheat.
God offer us salvation when He says "come unto me" (Matt. 11.28) because we have free-will: "whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely" (Rev. 22.17)?