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Faithful
03-30-2016, 01:47 AM
"And I, if I be lifted up from the earth [referencing the cross], will draw all men unto me. This he said, signifying what death he should die" (John 12.32,33).

Jesus did not say some men, but all persons.

Does John 3.16 say, "For God so loved the ELECT, that he gave his only begotten Son, who believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life"? Or does it say, "For God so loved the WORLD, that he gave his only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER BELIEVEITH in him should not perish, but have everlasting life"?

Faithful
03-30-2016, 04:10 AM
"Calvinism is wickedness. The very thought of it is repugnant".

"But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man" (Heb. 2.9). For every man or just some men?

"Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye" (Acts 7.51). In other words, it didn't have to be this way. Just as your fathers Augustine, Luther and Calvin resisted the Holy Spirit, so do Calvinists today.

The last point of TULIP is the tricky one, because it doesn't mean OSAS, but to Calvinists it means they will be made to persevere to the end. But they can never know for sure if they are really saved, because they have no assurance they will persevere to the end. They could blow someone's brains out tomorrow which proves they were never saved to begin with.

Whereas true Christians can never lose salvation no matter what.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch6niCdIv_Q

Faithful
03-30-2016, 04:28 AM
There he goes as a false teacher, because at the 42 minute mark he said Arminians claim you can lose salvation. No! Arminius said never once did he ever say or believe a person could lose salvation. Those who say you can lose salvation are the Remonstrants and Roman Catholics and Methodists, Eastern Orthodox and Russian Orthodox and Coptics, etc.

This is called sinning bearing false witness.