The Twised Thoughts of a Self-Proclaimed Non-OSAS Calvinist

Re: ArmorofGodMinstries
http://www.youtube.com/user/ArmorOfGodMinistries

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Originally Posted by ArmorOfGodMinistries

WOW! Good Sir, you have very great misunderstanding of what the Doctrines of Grace teach. Total Depravity is the teaching that man cannot save himself nor come to God on his own, because we are slaves to sin (John 8:34). He has given us a choice by drawing us to him, thats where our choice comes in. Christ draws ALL men to him so that they can choose, he is then drawing them on on condition. It says he draws all in John 13:32. yes God gives Grace upon us all, he rains on the Just and Unjust. He does not make us do anything. Now, Hyper-Calvinism teaches that we are like robots. And no I have not contradicted myself, True Historical Calvinism does not teach OSAS, it teaches Perseverance of the Saints. It teaches like the Bible that all the true Christians will persevere in faith. Just as the Bible teaches. Unrepentant sin will send you to Hell, you have to repent to be saved, Jesus said that in Luke 13. And really you are the one contradicting yourself because with your Libertarian Free Will that Arminian's claim, you may do as you please, and if you are saved and you want to go back to sin, then you can. There is no need to pray for our ministry, we are Christians saved by God's Grace.

In Christ's Love,
Minister Caleb Carter
Head Pastor
Armor Of God Ministries

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Christians believe we need God's grace and can't come to Him on our own, but Total depravity teachings go beyond that and say God doesn't provide sufficient grace to all to come unto Him, thus irresistibly imposing salvation on some and sending others to Hell without any opportunity for salvation. That's where the other false teachings come in: irresistible grace, unconditional election and limited atonement. Obviously, therefore, what you worship is the Devil producing a facsimile of God's saving grace, seeking to change the times and the ways and historical record of the nefarious nature of Calvinism.

God draws everyone, but many such as yourself draw back unto perdition (Heb. 10.39). All Calvinism is false, not just hyper-Calvinism, for all Calvinism teaches irresistible grace and limited atonement. Christians can't keep ourselves saved, so we can't persevere to keep saved. That is another false teaching. Rather, Arminius correctly taught Preservation of the Saints. Praise the Lord! Perseverance of the saints taught by Calvinism is OSAS but not the kind taught by Arminius. There is a difference between OSAS that is irresistibly imposed and OSAS that is accomplished by God for those who truly receive Him to keep us when we can't keep ourselves saved. You teach salvation by works as well as irresistibly regeneration taught by Calvinists which is itself a contradiction. That's why there are primarily just two views: Calvinism and Arminianism. You seek another view, but it has been discounted through history because it is self-contradictory.

We give no regard to non-OSASers or your silly contradictory notion of non-OSAS Calvinism. Everyone it seems has their pet teaching and special idol. This is yours. You are not a Christian. Arminians don't believe in libertarian free will, for we believe all is done by the provision of God's grace. Whereas you believe in salvation by works which would be outside of God's grace: by faith not by works, lest any man should boast in keeping himself saved. You believe in libertarian free will. There is no such thing. Free will is not libertarian. It is according to God's provision of what free will entails. God's provision is that He will permanently save someone and keep them if they truly received Him by repenting and believing Him truly in coming to the cross.

A Christian, however, if he chooses to to remain carnal and tied down to the world, though he can't lose eternal life, he will lose the reward of returning with Christ to reign during the 1000 years, after which time he will then be reconciled and made sinless and selfless to dwell in the New City along with the overcomer believers who formerly overcame to receive that reward of reigning during the millennial kingdom (Jude 14,15; Rev. 20.4, etc.). All believers overcometh, but some overcometh sooner than others and therefore, receive the reward in the time of recompense. There are advanced parties and harbingers in every sphere. Amen.

Clearly you are not a child of God. My prayer is that one day you give your life to Christ.

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Originally Posted by ArmorOfGodMinistries

Sir, yet again, you never give any scriptural backup for you stuff. Romans 11:22 say you will be cut off if you quit trusting in Christ. And if you feel some power by posting mean things about this Ministry, then go ahead, we have nothing to hide. But you Pride and Arrogance has over taken you soul and Spirit.

In Christ
Minister Carter

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It's backed up all through these forums continually. Take for example here,
http://biblocality.com/forums/faq.ph...#faq_question7

Romans 11.22 doesn't say a person can lose eternal life. It's talking about the nations and Israel. Are all Jews saved? No, of course not. A nation can be a believing nation but then fall away because the people generations after become unbelieving. Read the chapter again in this context.

You're looking for ways to make Scripture tell you what you want it to say because your spirit is dead to God and has not been quickened and regenerated with eternal life. You've accepted the evil spirit into your heart which says you can lose salvation tomorrow, get it back the next day, and on and on. Satan loves to cast doubt. Dave Hunt says, that would be a strange kind of salvation.

May you yet one day give your life to the God who keeps and never lets go. This is love a love you don't know, not yet.