Re: PureInertia
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Quote Originally Posted by PureInertia's
At the same time, there is no proof that something can not come from nothing. There are only causes, which proves that things can happen by causes. There are also things are spontaneous and have no known cause. You need to explain those before you make any assumptions.
Not only do the laws of thermodynamics get violated if you want to think something comes from that which does not exist, but it goes against all the evidence we do have of trillions and trillions of causes in nature, an overwhelming preponderance of evidence beyond a reasonable doubt, and no hard evidence something comes from nothing. Wherever you want to arbitrarily inject something coming from nothing, you can always just compare to God who has a mind, and a mind is needed.

But you don't understand thermodynamics and you don't understand that trillions of causes and trillions of stars and trillions of hydrogen atoms is only evidence of that thing. It is not evidence of something not being able to come from nothing.
The first law expresses that energy can be transformed, i.e. changed from one form to another, but cannot be created or destroyed. That which doesn't exist can't produce anything for it is without any energy. Your fantasy life is out of control. I never said anything about how many different objects there are, only that we observe trillions and trillions of causes in nature. It's like you are playing a lottery with odds against you more than a trillion to one. Surely, you will lose.